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I'm sold on it's benefits already.

I'm also rather twitchy.  Twitchy=healthy, right?  Right!
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Doesn't matter about the benefits.  I'm addicted, physically and psychologically :p

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Some of the claimed benefits are associated with caffiene, rather than coffee specifically. Yet the article says nothing about tea. That's kind of short-sighted, it seems to me.

I think I'll stick with the tea.


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Some of the claimed benefits are associated with caffiene, rather than coffee specifically. Yet the article says nothing about tea. That's kind of short-sighted, it seems to me.

I think I'll stick with the tea.

Caffine is only mentioned in the first two reasons.

Reason number seven mentions massive amounts of antioxidents

7. Coffee is Loaded With Nutrients and Antioxidants
Coffee isn’t just black water.

Many of the nutrients in the coffee beans do make it into the final drink, which actually contains a decent amount of vitamins and minerals.

A cup of coffee contains (30):

6% of the RDA for Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5).
11% of the RDA for Riboflavin (Vitamin B2).
2% of the RDA for Niacin (B3) and Thiamine (B1).
3% of the RDA for Potassium and Manganese.

May not seem like much, but if you drink several cups of coffee per day then this quickly adds up.

But this isn’t all. Coffee also contains a massive amount of antioxidants.

In fact, coffee is the biggest source of antioxidants in the western diet, outranking both fruits and vegetables combined (31, 32, 33).


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Some of the claimed benefits are associated with caffeine, rather than coffee specifically. Yet the article says nothing about tea. That's kind of short-sighted, it seems to me.

I think I'll stick with the tea.

Caffine is only mentioned in the first two reasons. . . .

And in neither of those two reasons is tea mentioned. Incidentally, tea is known to also contain a high amount of antioxidants. But tea isn't mentioned there either. That's three out of the seven points made. And there are more.

The article says,
    "I’d also like to point out that many of the studies above were epidemiological in nature. Such studies can only show association, they can not prove that coffee caused the effects."
So neither can they prove what agent in coffee could have caused the effects, if any. Conceivably, that agent differs between coffee and tea in the nutrient question, but in the other reasons given? Not necessarily.

In "risk of death," "risk of type II Diabetes," or "risk of Alzheimer’s," I see no reason to propose a great difference between coffee and tea. Just because the article does not mention caffeine in those points says little about whether caffeine may be an active agent. After all, the article fails to mention relevant points in other places.

The purpose of the article is to bolster the reputation of coffee against rumors of it's possible ill effects. Since tea hasn't had the bad reputation, the writer evidently chose to ignore it, or did not have adequate research to include it — one way or another. And the writer did so in at least six of the seven reasons given — not merely two.

So the article really says little if anything about coffee versus tea. What it focuses on is the new view of coffee versus the old view.


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My favorite line about caffeine, courtesy of National Geographic a few years back: "Most caffeine is consumed to offset the effects of sleep deprivation, which is caused by...excess consumption of caffeine."

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From...http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/which-is-higher-in-antioxidants---coffee-or-tea.html

Black tea, oolong tea, and green tea may not be as high in antioxidants as coffee is, but because they can be sipped all day long, they are actually better sources of antioxidants. Tea is rich in polyphenols, which are antioxidants. Tea possibly contains 10 times the amount of polyphenols that are found in fruits and vegetables.

The biggest benefit of tea is that it is healthy for most people to drink six to eight cups of tea per day. When you compare the amount of antioxidants in eight cups of tea to the amount of antioxidants in two cups of coffee, tea wins.


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Wait, I'm not supposed to have 6-8 cups of coffee per day?

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i like coffee. the hotter the better. preferably straight from the pot before you put that creamer/sugar crap in it!

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And in neither of those two reasons is tea mentioned.

Well, it's an article about coffee and its benefits. Probably someone will come along and write an article touting tea, if they haven't done so already. And, I bet that article won't be comparing tea to coffee.

There are articles comparing coffee to tea. Here's one.

http://news.menshealth.com/the-showdown-coffee-vs-tea/2012/04/06/


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Some of the claimed benefits are associated with caffeine, rather than coffee specifically. Yet the article says nothing about tea. That's kind of short-sighted, it seems to me.

I think I'll stick with the tea.

Caffine is only mentioned in the first two reasons. . . .

And in neither of those two reasons is tea mentioned. Incidentally, tea is known to also contain a high amount of antioxidants. But tea isn't mentioned there either. That's three out of the seven points made. And there are more.

The article says,
    "I’d also like to point out that many of the studies above were epidemiological in nature. Such studies can only show association, they can not prove that coffee caused the effects."
So neither can they prove what agent in coffee could have caused the effects, if any. Conceivably, that agent differs between coffee and tea in the nutrient question, but in the other reasons given? Not necessarily.

In "risk of death," "risk of type II Diabetes," or "risk of Alzheimer’s," I see no reason to propose a great difference between coffee and tea. Just because the article does not mention caffeine in those points says little about whether caffeine may be an active agent. After all, the article fails to mention relevant points in other places.

The purpose of the article is to bolster the reputation of coffee against rumors of it's possible ill effects. Since tea hasn't had the bad reputation, the writer evidently chose to ignore it, or did not have adequate research to include it — one way or another. And the writer did so in at least six of the seven reasons given — not merely two.

So the article really says little if anything about coffee versus tea. What it focuses on is the new view of coffee versus the old view.

Man.....what a buzzkill

I'm gonna have to go pour myself another cup before I read anymore of this.
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And in neither of those two reasons is tea mentioned.

Well, it's an article about coffee and its benefits. Probably someone will come along and write an article touting tea, if they haven't done so already. And, I bet that article won't be comparing tea to coffee.

There are articles comparing coffee to tea. Here's one.

http://news.menshealth.com/the-showdown-coffee-vs-tea/2012/04/06/

It's mostly an article about caffeine and its possible benefits. Very little of the claimed benefit is due to coffee uniquely. And most is not proven.

Yet the writer ends with the superfluous claim that coffee may be the healthiest drink in the world. Like I said, that is short-sighted, and misleading.

Caffeine is not synonymous with coffee. And that is what the writer seems willing for us to believe.


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It's been a good week.  First the good news about coffee, now this.
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Wait, I'm not supposed to have 6-8 cups of coffee per day?

Well if you cut down to that too quickly it may cause problems I suppose....
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Reason #8:  There's still some coffe left in the pot.

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6-8 cups a day seems a bit much (assuming a 6-8oz cup).  What you need is a 32oz mug.  You can cut your consumption down to 2 cups a day that way!  

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I'm glad we can have a sensible discussion about high capacity coffee consumption around here.  Using the HSF scale, I have decided that retired reddog is correct and I am cutting down to two (pots) per day, slowly, like several years probably.

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