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RedDoug 
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 6:30 pm |
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I had two Contour IV packs. This is the last one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281071248923
When I was younger I loved these packs. This one is a bit heavier than the stripped down model I already sold.
But it's time to cut weight, and move on to backpacking as a senior. Growing old is hard!
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hbfa
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 7:12 pm |
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Growing old beats the alternative.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 7:14 pm |
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Why is growing old hard? It's completely automatic... takes no effort at all. 
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 8:17 pm |
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(RedDoug @ Feb. 27 2013, 5:04 pm)
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:14 pm)
QUOTE Why is growing old hard? It's completely automatic... takes no effort at all. Well, for me, I have never worked at anything so hard in my life as I work at growing old. I can't even carry the old BP stuff anymore. You must be very young..... Maybe we should call you YoungBen2Wrold?
Nah, not that young... just in big denial. 
(I'm 52.)
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RedDoug
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 8:56 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 27 2013, 8:17 pm)
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(RedDoug @ Feb. 27 2013, 5:04 pm)
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(Ben2World @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:14 pm)
QUOTE Why is growing old hard? It's completely automatic... takes no effort at all. Well, for me, I have never worked at anything so hard in my life as I work at growing old. I can't even carry the old BP stuff anymore. You must be very young..... Maybe we should call you YoungBen2Wrold? Nah, not that young... just in big denial. (I'm 52.)
What a hoot!! I tried the denial thing for awhile myself but that only works so long.
On the CDT-L I chat with a lady who is section hiking the CDT. She will be 71 this year and will be doing 1/3 of NM. She did a 3rd last year. It is amazing how she is cutting weight so she can keep packin'.
I bought a new Zpack hexamiod plus solo tent this year. Single wall, just over a lb. Cost me $400. When you start paying that kind of money to cut ounces believe, DENIAL no longer works. Its all reality then.
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vinovampire
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 9:31 pm |
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What year is that pack?
I picked up a similar Contour IV pack during the summer of 1997. I still have it shoved in the closet. Used it once last three winters, but finally retired it for a new winter pack.
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RedDoug
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 9:43 pm |
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(BradMT @ Feb. 27 2013, 9:35 pm)
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(vinovampire @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:31 pm)
QUOTE What year is that pack?
I picked up a similar Contour IV pack during the summer of 1997. I still have it shoved in the closet. Used it once last three winters, but finally retired it for a new winter pack. My wife got her Contour IV in 1987... that one is definitely newer.
I think the Contour packs came out in the 80's. I got my first one through Serria Trading Post and pickd up a 2nd one for my oldest son. We were just making the jump from external to internal frames. Big move back once upon a time. Externals are far and few between any more.
But they were neat and great for having everything organized.
I had three externals- all a good trade name- and all 3 were sold on email.
I have sold lots of packs on eBay. For awhile I had a new pack every year- try it a time or two, then sell it and try another one.
I stayed with the Contour 4 for over 20 years and my smaller and lighter MountSmith Auspex.
So I am presenting a case for making a pack history of one's life cycle. Smaller, to bigger, then smaller again.
Maybe I'll be cremated someday and be buried in a small pack.
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BradMT
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 10:02 pm |
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(RedDoug @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:43 pm)
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(BradMT @ Feb. 27 2013, 9:35 pm)
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(vinovampire @ Feb. 27 2013, 7:31 pm)
QUOTE What year is that pack?
I picked up a similar Contour IV pack during the summer of 1997. I still have it shoved in the closet. Used it once last three winters, but finally retired it for a new winter pack. My wife got her Contour IV in 1987... that one is definitely newer. I think the Contour packs came out in the 80's. I got my first one through Serria Trading Post and pickd up a 2nd one for my oldest son. We were just making the jump from external to internal frames. Big move back once upon a time. Externals are far and few between any more. But they were neat and great for having everything organized. I had three externals- all a good trade name- and all 3 were sold on email. I have sold lots of packs on eBay. For awhile I had a new pack every year- try it a time or two, then sell it and try another one. I stayed with the Contour 4 for over 20 years and my smaller and lighter MountSmith Auspex. So I am presenting a case for making a pack history of one's life cycle. Smaller, to bigger, then smaller again. Maybe I'll be cremated someday and be buried in a small pack.
I've carried internals exclusively sine 1978 when I gave up on externals. Have had dozens from most of the makers. I still prefer big packs, even though I'll be 52 soon.
A big pack with a GREAT suspension can carry everything inside and its extra weight is mitigated by a comfortable carry (not everything equates to oz's and lb's).
A small pack with a compromised suspension and everything dangling on the outside... no thanks.
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RedDoug
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 10:53 pm |
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The summer I was 50- 14 yrs ago- I spent a month in the Weimenuche Wilderness. the contour iv was my pack! I started out on the first section with 15 days of food in it.
It carried the weight well. When I was 50 I had the same opinion as you. I liked my big pack and the way it carried 40- 50 lbs.
Those days are gone.
Denial doesn't help carry the load.
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BradMT
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Posted on: Feb. 27 2013, 11:08 pm |
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A big pack doesn't mean you have to carry 40-50 lbs... I would have thought that was obvious. It just makes lighter loads more comfortable.
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RedDoug
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Posted on: Feb. 28 2013, 12:17 am |
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(hikerjer @ Feb. 27 2013, 11:28 pm)
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QUOTE It's completely automatic... takes no effort at all. True, maybe. But getting up after you fall down takes a hell of a lot of effort when you get older.  I know exactly of which Red Doug speaks.
And the uphills are getting harder and harder. I creep uphill at a snails pace now and its all HARD WORK.
So I spend dollars to cut ounces. I expect my next pair of trekking poles may look a lot like crutches.
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