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Ben2World 
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Posted on: Mar. 14 2013, 3:13 pm |
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I use Gmail and would like to back up my emails. I just installed Thunderbird and popped all mail. In Gmail, I use various different folders -- so I created an identical set in Thunderbird. But after popping, I noticed that all emails were dumped into my inbox! I manually moved out everything from my inbox into the appropriate folders. Not too bad -- but I don't want to keep doing this for future emails.
Is there a way to pop emails and have them land in the correct folders in Thunderbird -- and not all dumped into 'inbox'?
If impossible, are there free online services that can backup / restore Gmail (my email volume is actually quite modest - a fraction of a GB)?
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Tigger
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Posted on: Mar. 14 2013, 3:45 pm |
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IMAP instead of POP3
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 14 2013, 4:16 pm |
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Thanks, Tigger! 
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Posted on: Mar. 15 2013, 12:08 am |
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also, you can create filters in Thunderbird.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 15 2013, 12:20 am |
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Thanks. Curious about IMAP -- I understanding changes done @Gmail will be reflected in my local Thunderbird file. But what about the other way around? If I send an email or delete an email locally, will IMAP sync those actions back to GMail? Or is IMAP a one-way synching only?
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 15 2013, 2:10 am |
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Pretty cool...
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 3:30 pm |
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IMAP is the way of the future...
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 3:50 pm |
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Which begs the question -- why pop mail if one can IMAP?
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Tigger
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 3:55 pm |
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POP3 means it is brought to your system without worry of data limits. You own it. Have us much as you want or your system can store (assuming the limitations of your mail program). Mind you, now you have to back it up if you want to protect it.
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Tigger
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 4:01 pm |
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(Ben2World @ Mar. 18 2013, 12:57 pm)
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(Tigger @ Mar. 18 2013, 12:55 pm)
QUOTE POP3 means it is brought to your system without worry of data limits. You own it. Mind you, now you have to back it up... I should have been clearer... Say you're using internet mail (like Gmail or Yahoo) -- and it gives you the option of Pop or Imap -- so you can have the mail downloaded to your desktop as well. When do you use which?
If you have one system that you primarily pull mail from, I would lean toward POP3. I would leave a copy on the server for a certain amount of days so that you can access mail from your other devices (like a phone or tablet that you want to make some quick responses to). If you have multiple systems and a folder structure you want access to and have it be identical on all systems, IMAP is what I would choose (Understanding that there is data limitations). Mind you, that is a loosely based decision. Each person's needs are different. You can even have a combination but not as effectively.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 4:04 pm |
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My one email system is Gmail. I posted this thread a few days ago because I wanted some sort of offline / local backup. I installed Thunderbird for this purpose.
Popping just dumped all my thousands of Gmail messages onto my T-bird's "in box". IMAP, as you suggested, downloaded all my messages too -- but together with the folders -- all sorted out accurately. So I was wondering what advantages (if any) popping has over imapping. Anyway, I'll need to read up more on both -- out of morbid curiosity.
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Tigger
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 4:12 pm |
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With IMAP, you are storing all of your data on GMail. The current default limit is 10 GB of storage (More than adequate for most people). If you needed more than 10 GB, you can either purchase more storage from Google or you could switch to an POP3 (downloading to your local system). The additional strategy of downloading locally would be for true "ownership" - nobody could hack your account and wipe out your mail without actually going on to your computer (mind you, most hosts have a backup of the mail and could restore it) and also POP3 provides a slightly faster mail interface (IMAP has to sync) on newer systems. IMAP on the local system is more of a temporary cache. It doesn't help with long term storage where that is required. You have to stay under that 10 GB limit vs. a POP3 where I could store years upon years worth of storage with no consequence. On older systems, IMAP is significantly slower in regards to the sync process and can strain the system.
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Ben2World
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 4:17 pm |
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I see. Thanks again, Tigger.
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Posted on: Mar. 18 2013, 4:30 pm |
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You know, there's an offline Gmail App. If you're running Chrome, it's relatively easy to add, and it will sync automatically when you connect.
https://chrome.google.com/webstor....kglhimk
IMAP is handy if you're transferring, but running two separate systems is completely unnecessary.
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