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In about a month I plan on making my first overnight backpack trip, a 14 mile loop. I am not a stranger to camping, but this is my first venture of this type. I have a good pack, 15 deg Marmot, ground tarp, sleeping pad and mattress, Jet Boil, Platypus bottles, Katydyn filter, first aid kit, small lantern, cup and spork, and a Noah's Tarp. Outside of food and TP, is there anything else I should be carrying? I'd like to make a small camp fire too, if it's permitted there.
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I'd ditch the lantern and carry a headlamp.

Sleeping pad AND mattress?  What is the mattress?


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What kind of temperatures and weather are you expecting?  Any rain gear with you?

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Map, GPS w extra batteries, and/or compass?
Leave a trip itinerary with a reliable friend or family member?
Appropriate clothing?


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 An inflatable pad (I'm soon to turn 65!). Hoping for temp range of
40 -65 deg. Rain gear? I have an Eddie Bauer rain jacket.  :;):
Ah yes a GPS I have one and compasses and a map too!
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I'm soon to turn 65!

A defibrillator?

JUST KIDDING! Good for you!!!


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Rain gear? I have an Eddie Bauer rain jacket.  :;):

I'd take some rain pants as well and at least a fleece or micro-puff jacket.  How about a knife?  A bandana is pretty light and serves a hundred uses.  I always carry one.  Trowel for digging a cathole.  Extra plastic sacks and garbage bags always come in handy for me.

And don't let these young whipper snappers give you a bad time. I'm your age and I'm still going strong.  A pox on them.


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And don't let these young whipper snappers give you a bad time. I'm your age and I'm still going strong.  A pox on them.

Thanks, Jer.

At 54, I don't hear that adjective, "young", very often.


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In about a month I plan on making my first overnight backpack trip, a 14 mile loop.

Where and what kind of terrain? Climate? Hiking on Mt Rainier in a month would be quite different than in the US SE.

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OK, but how about dayhiking for some miles with some kind of pack?


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In about a month I plan on making my first overnight backpack trip, a 14 mile loop.

Where and what kind of terrain? Climate? Hiking on Mt Rainier in a month would be quite different than in the US SE.

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OK, but how about dayhiking for some miles with some kind of pack?

Mt Ranier! Noooo, how about eastern PA! And I have been doing some day hikes with the pack, but not fully loaded ones.

I'll have to look into some rain pants, camo ones I could use.
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I second the headlamp and bandanna suggestions.

Trekking poles? Not necessary but since I first tried them I always use them.

Some type of moleskin or other tape to help deal with potential blisters.


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What kind of cup?  Will your food fit in there too or will you need to bring a bowl of some sort?

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Thanks, Jer.

At 54, I don't hear that adjective, "young", very often.

You're ore than welcome.  Hey, at my age you are a whipper snapper and take that as a compliment when you get it.  Your time will come soon enough. :D

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Everybody quit telling the guy to carry more stuff!!!

Jeeez, we all know the biggest newby mistake is carrying 15# of crap they'll never use. Rain pants for an overnight? Seriously? At this rate he'll be carrying a 45# pack when it shouldn't be over 25# for one night. Backpacking is a lot more fun with a light pack and you really need very little for one night out. After a couple of trips you'll get serious about cutting weight or drop it all together.

Have a nice adventure & a great time, mjeck. The "right" gear is different for everybody and can only be determined by experience. Don't know why you're waiting a month to start - what's wrong with tonight or next weekend?
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Jeeez, we all know the biggest newby mistake is carrying 15# of crap they'll never use. Rain pants for an overnight? Seriously? . . . you really need very little for one night out.

The "right" gear is different for everybody and can only be determined by experience.

There are different philosophies. I'm in the camp that finds the only major difference between a weekend and ten days is the amount of food and stove fuel.

But it depends on where and when you're going. In the soggy, cold eastern woodlands where weather is unpredictable, yeah, he probably needs to carry crap like rain pants a lot of the time. In the Sierras in the summer, I probably won't even carry pants.

Don't worry--I'll be wearing shorts, not a kilt.


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It's an overnighter...you could probably do it nekkid...and without food and water.
Just visualize what you will be doing once you stop and make camp for the night. As you run through your visualization you will see what you do and don't need.
Most important thing to bring is the thought of having a great time...You will soon forget about not having.......but you will remember the moment forever.


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It's an overnighter...you could probably do it nekkid...

Again, it depends heavily upon where, when, and the expected weather.

A friend of mine is an ER physician in eastern Kentucky. A news station interviews him on hypothermia each Fall, as the colors begin to change.

His standard line: "First, you get cold, then you get stupid, then you die. But sometimes, you're stupid first."

In Colin Fletcher's first edition of The Complete Walker, he put it something like this:
If you can barely survive the worst possible weather you can expect while you're wearing every stitch of clothing and gear you've brought along, you packed correctly.


We've had plenty of epics on the first night of a trip, and used everything we brought along, and wished we hadn't left something at home to save less than a pound.


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So excited for you mjeck! Too bad you have to wait a month!

For 14 miles I probably wouldn't be carrying the filter. I'd just carry enough water and have a purifying tab or two in my emergency kit.


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Yes, seriously.  I always carry them even on day hikes and have never regretted it.  Been a number of time I was dang glad to have them.  Sure, I probably would have survived without them, but it would not have been pleasant or enjoyable. Sure, you've got to find a balance on what you take, but I don't think anyone has gone overboard on their suggestions.

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Depending on the filter, it's probably lighter than two days worth of water. If it isn't, he needs a different purification device/method.


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I'd ditch the lantern and carry a headlamp.

This for sure.  A headlamp is lighter, more useful and less problematic.

As to Jer's suggestion on rain pants . . . it's a matter of personal preference.  I've carried rain pants on colder weather trips as a safety precaution but I've never really worn them.  

I'll add duct tape to your list and no one will argue with that--can be used for fixing tears in gear, clothing or skin and a zillion other things too.

Keep track of the things you don't use and think about leaving them behind next time.

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I dislike rain pants, myself. I rely on just wearing quick-drying pants and having a dry pair for camp.

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Since you've been camping for a while, you're probably already familiar with lists

Write down everything you plan on bringing. Check it off as you put it in your pack.  A forgotten item can be inconvenience when car camping, but redundancy is usually reduced backpacking.

I forgot my sleeping bag once...
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Write down everything you plan on bringing. Check it off as you put it in your pack.  A forgotten item can be inconvenience when car camping, but redundancy is usually reduced backpacking.

I forgot my sleeping bag once...

Building on what Lamebeaver wrote...

Another suggestion is to always start with a master list of all the gear pieces you own -- with weights and all -- a spreadsheet is ideal.  Make a working copy of that worksheet.

With a complete list, simply delete all the rows of stuff you know you won't take with you -- print after finalizing down to the items and weights that you are happy with -- and use that as your packing list.  As Lamebeaver wrote, check off each item as you pack.


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And here's a visual for the 52-65 age group:


OMG! I did not need to see that!

May he quickly find both fire ants and stinging nettles.

And poison ivy.


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With a complete list, simply delete all the rows of stuff you know you won't take with you -- print after finalizing down to the items and weights that you are happy with -- and use that as your packing list.  As Lamebeaver wrote, check off each item as you pack.

OK, here we go again. This is way too OCD for me--maybe not for others, though.

Next thing you know, the forum will be advising the n00b to throw in his laptop--and solar charger--so he can digitally access his spreadsheet on the trail, and update comments on the functionality and performance of each item, and develop a usefulness-per-gram-packed-weight rating scale.

I have never made a master list or used a spreadsheet for packing my pack. I just put my crap in my pack and go. This is getting way too complicated for the simple proposition of going for a walk in the woods.

I'll plan food if I'm not going solo, but that's as far as it goes.


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always start with a master list of all the gear pieces you own -- with weights and all -- a spreadsheet is ideal.  Make a working copy of that worksheet.

With a complete list, simply delete all the rows of stuff you know you won't take with you -- print after finalizing down to the items and weights that you are happy with -- and use that as your packing list.  As Lamebeaver wrote, check off each item as you pack.

OK, here we go again. This is way too OCD for me--maybe not for others, though.

Next thing you know, the forum will be advising the n00b to throw in his laptop--and solar charger--so he can digitally access his spreadsheet on the trail, and update comments on the functionality and performance of each item, and develop a usefulness-per-gram-packed-weight rating scale.

I have never made a master list or used a spreadsheet for packing my pack. I just put my crap in my pack and go. This is getting way too complicated for the simple proposition of going for a walk in the woods.

I'll plan food if I'm not going solo, but that's as far as it goes.

LMFAO. Have to agree. I don't even own a printer, never mind a scale.

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LMFAO. Have to agree. I don't even own a printer, never mind a scale.

:D  :D  :D
No scale here, either.

But I'm glad you admitted it first.


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Haha... this one is going to kill you guys...

Not day hikes, obviously, but on all other hikes, I copy an additional page (as described above).  Now, my Excel spreadsheet has a separate page for every single trip... what I took with me... going back to 2004 -- my 'virgin' trip to Wind Rivers.  :D

But really, after all these years... it only takes me a few quick minutes to copy a sheet and delete out all the rows of stuff I won't take with me.  Print.  And pack.  I have never left anything at home inadvertently.  So it works for me.


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