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Eggs, Too, May Provoke Bacteria to Raise Heart Risk
By GINA KOLATA
Published: April 24, 2013


In the case of eggs, the chain of events starts when the body digests lecithin, breaking it into its constituent parts, including the chemical choline. Intestinal bacteria metabolize choline and release a substance that the liver converts to a chemical known as TMAO, for trimethylamine N-oxide. High levels of TMAO in the blood are linked to increased risk of heart attack and stroke.

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OK, enough harassment of eggs.  First, it was they increase your cholesterol, which increased your chances of a heart attack.  Once that risk was reduced, they had to come up with something else.  Now it is this.  The egg provokes gut bacteria into creating a substance which increases your chances of a heart attack.

If we weren't supposed to eat eggs, they wouldn't appear in the company of bacon.  


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OK, enough harassment of eggs.  First, it was they increase your cholesterol, which increased your chances of a heart attack.  Once that risk was reduced, they had to come up with something else.  Now it is this.  The egg provokes gut bacteria into creating a substance which increases your chances of a heart attack.

If we weren't supposed to eat eggs, they wouldn't appear in the company of bacon.  

I love eggs. But, all things in moderation.

I recently changed my breakfast habit. I was getting a scrambled egg and vegetable (with a slice of bacon chopped up) sandwhich for breakfast 4 mornings a week. Then more eggs on the weekend. Now, I have a banana and roasted almonds for weekday breakfasts and still do the eggs on the weekend.

One of the things we have can control in our lives is what we eat. Cutting out a lot of eggs and reducing the amount of red meat I eat hasn't affected my lifestyle one iota.


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That's why it's important to finish breakfast with a shot of hard liquor, to stun or kill those offending bacteria (maybe in the OJ for you namby-pamby's).  Think of it as a health boost.

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At home every morning I put 1/4 cup of eggbeaters into a micowave bowl, add a hand full of chopped mushrooms, a hand full of baby spinach, a little part-skim shredded mozzarella cheese and a slice of Canadian bacon. 3 minutes in the zapper, then placed on a whole wheat flat bread.   If it kills me so be it cause it taste oh so good.
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I didn't intend for it to sound like you were the one harassing eggs, but the scientists who release all of these findings.  I know you would not be so mean spirited.  

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I didn't intend for it to sound like you were the one harassing eggs, but the scientists who release all of these findings.  I know you would not be so mean spirited.  

No worry. I didn't take it that way.

I used your post to preach. I hope no one sees it as my telling them what to do. I'm just trying to get information out. What someone does with it is up to them.


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I heard that too.  Very interesting.
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I just had lunch.  It was a banana, an orange, about 20 almonds, a 1/2 cup of frozen blueberries, a 1/2 cup of greek yogurt, and a 1/2 cup of pomegranate juice.  90 seconds in the vitamix with 6 ice cubes to keep it cool.

Mid afternoon snack will be 2 tomatoes, 2 carrots, some broccoli, a little green pepper, and bunch of spring mix.  5 minute in the vitamix makes a nice warm soup.

For dinner this week I'm off my normal fare of chicken, green beans, and sweet potato because my future son-in-law dropped off several pounds of venison steaks, chops, and ground as a thank you for taking sitting their dog last weekend.
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I just had lunch.  It was a banana, an orange, about 20 almonds ...

Almonds contain cyanide.  I hope your affairs are in order.
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As my Doctor tells me; name any form of human activity, food, drink, etc, I can find 10 doctors who will say it's bad for you.

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As my Doctor tells me; name any form of human activity, food, drink, etc, I can find 10 doctors who will say it's bad for you.

The latest issue of AARP magazine states that you should not eat "oily fish, spinach, mushrooms, beans" if you have arthritis because those foods will increase inflammation.

A subsequent article in the same issue states you should eat oily fish, spinach, mushrooms, beans if you want to live longer because those items are "super foods."

I guess the conclusion is that if you have arthritis (is there anyone over 60 who doesn't?) the best you can hope for is an early death.
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The only food stuffs that I've found that aggravate my arthritis are soybeans, in any form.
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Food hasn't bothered my arthritis, only rain.
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Haven't tried to analyze what bothers my arthritis.  I'm pretending that it's all in my head.

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I am 61 and have no arthritis so far.  Just had both knees x-rayed as part of my search for diagnosis for the problems I have been having going downhill, and neither of them show any signs of deterioration.  At least not in the joints or gaps between them.  

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I am 61 and have no arthritis so far.  Just had both knees x-rayed as part of my search for diagnosis for the problems I have been having going downhill, and neither of them show any signs of deterioration.  At least not in the joints or gaps between them.  

Have you tried some general PT type exercises to support the joint(s) by strengthen all the surrounding muscles?

When I started mountainbiking regularly all my hiking knee problems went away!


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This past week, I saw a PT and she gave me 8 different exercises to start doing.  I will see how they do.  They certainly make me tired by the end of the reps.  

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As my Doctor tells me; name any form of human activity, food, drink, etc, I can find 10 doctors who will say it's bad for you.

I agree with that. I just got done reading up on eggs being a super food lol.

I have a few friends into strength training and competing and they eat 6 eggs for breakfast and 6 for lunch. None of them with heart troubles, so if they can get away with a dozen a day, my 3 a day shouldnt add up to much! Well not everyday I might average out to 3 every other day.

Like Big_Load pointed out there are lots of potentially harmful things in many healthful foods. Choline, is in pretty much any animal based food and also many veggies. And they are making a few 'leaps' between the eggs and the heart disease, and we also don't know much about the test subjects and the rest of their diet and current state of health. Maybe these TMAO levels are more dangerous only in the presence of other chemicals they react with? Who knows.


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