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Roger was hoping to avoid Damascus during this week.  He is in the area, hiking the AT, so I hope he managed to not be there.  

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I really think that by say age 65 drivers need to be tested EVERY year.I'm no physiologist so maybe a different age, I don't know.

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As a 61 yr old myself, I would not mind if it was annual testing at 60, but I think it would be of doubtful use until 65-70.  Definitely by 70, we need to test every driver every yr.  I would be willing to say that most drivers over 75 are not very good drivers, but get by on being slow, cautious, and only using familiar routes.  Once the meds become too involved, driving becomes dangerous.

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Lots of Trail Talkers there this weekend. It sounds like they are all okay.
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I was up there and it was scary. He missed me and OtherRob by about 8 feet or so. We were screwing around and got in the back of the parade. The guy had some sort of medical issue and was just crashing through the hikers in the parade. He hit all the people in the other lane - we were just lucky to be on the other side.  We were almost directly in front of the EMS folks and they reacted very quickly but were obviously overwhelmed. There were 3 ambulances actually within 100 ft of the first person hit.

It looked like there were about 8 people who were hurt enough to be immobile. The hikers on up from us had to lift the car off one lady and I'd figure she was the worst injured. There were quite a few people with minor scratches and such but I think the 50-60 report is a little high.
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Proving once again that you are safer on the trail than you are in town.
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I really think that by say age 65 drivers need to be tested EVERY year.I'm no physiologist so maybe a different age, I don't know.

Drivers should have a medical check AND reexamine, both written and road, every 5 years until age 65, unless a test indicates more often at an earlier age, and then every year thereafter. And licenses shouldn't be as cheap as they are nor should there be automatic renewals without rechecks.

Commercial pilots are every 6 months, private every 2 years for medical. Why shouldn't our drivers be required to be as safe as the "drivers" in the skies?


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Do you guys really see every piece of news as reason to expand government control/intrusion in our lives?
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There is no right to drive, and it is already regulated.  We are suggesting it be more regulated for a section of the population that has diminishing senses.  We put more regulations on young drivers because they have proven as a group to be less attentive to the road.  Why not older drivers when they have proven to be under more medical influence or less mental acuity?  

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No. Elderly drivers have plowed into crowds before. I got a Colorado License Ten Years ago that was good for TEN YEARS. That's a problem and if you feel addressing it to be an "intrusion" I really feel sorry for you Toejam.

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Absolutely not!

I see deregulation and anarchy as an effective means of achieving ecological balance by curtailing the run away growth of the human population.    :p


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Roger was hoping to avoid Damascus during this week.  He is in the area, hiking the AT, so I hope he managed to not be there.  

He's still in Tennessee, so no worries there.
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Yes.  It's not safe.

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Every time a disaster like this....or any other human caused or natural disaster happens, there's an outcry to prevent such occurrence in the future.  Unfortunately there are seldom simple easy answers.  Many older drivers function just fine, and would have no problem passing a written, road test or physical.  Then, suddenly, they have a stroke, or a heart attack and they're part of a two ton disaster hurling through a crowd of people.

While I agree that it would be nice to be able to prevent such disasters, the fact remains that until get smart cars that drive themselves, things like this are going to happen, and there's not much we can do to prevent it.
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That's how it works.

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Driving is a privilege, NOT a right, and as such can be regulated much more stringently than a right. Most people forget that.

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So, how many of you get tested every year, voluntarily?

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I've been driving 41 years. Since I've held an international DL, DLs in 2 foreign countries and 13 US states, I've been tested on average about every 3 years. How about you?

Many point out how "backwards" the US is when it comes to guns. Go look at what most European countries require to get a DL.
With ~20 million crashes annually with somewhere around 40,000 deaths, something needs to be done instead of just freehanding out DLs.


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41 years?  Then you're getting safer and safer.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s1114.pdf


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I should also point out I've driven some 2.5 million miles and never had a wreck. Even though I believe myself to be an excellent driver (and I think my driving history proves it) I still think a medical check should be required for ALL drivers, not just commercial ones, and a periodic complete retest not exceeding 5 years.

Plus DL ages should be linked with the drinking AND military age. If someone is not mature enough to responsibly handle alcohol, then they aren't mature enough to be a soldier or operate a 2 ton killing machine.


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