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http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/article.php?art_id=10355

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The author of the article must have gotten a brand new thesaurus he was itching to use. A miasma of red pepper bear spray? Donnybrook? Gantlet? He needs a dictionary too.

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That's an outcome that allows both the mountain lion and the cyclist to survive. So it's good news.

It's been suggested bear spray might work on mountain lions but not really tested. I'd be interested in knowing how much bear spray the cyclist used. It doesn't sound like much, but hard to say.

At twenty-five feet, I would have expected a more dramatic reaction from the mountain lion.


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The author of the article must have gotten a brand new thesaurus he was itching to use. A miasma of red pepper bear spray? Donnybrook? Gantlet? He needs a dictionary too.

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Tom Murphy, the photographer who documents many specials for Nature on PBS, also pepper sprayed a cougar that was stalking him in YNP with similar results.  Glad to see both parties survived...

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Making noise is an important tactic, though that might be difficult on a mountain bike, which moves quickly and quietly.

I've always said mountain bikes should have some kind of noise-maker* attached to at least alert other people, if not wildlife, that they're coming.

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It's hard to tell from the article, but I'm guessing he was pretty close to the maximum range of the spray.  If he had waited a bit longer it might have been more effective.

I believe the common advice is to slowly back away without making direct eye contact...which he may not have done initially.
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That's bears.
Cougars are ambush predators and as a rule don't like confrontation. Facing one, making eye contact and threatening gestures is more likely to back one off.


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the common advice is to slowly back away without making direct eye contact

That's bears.
Cougars are ambush predators and as a rule don't like confrontation. Facing one, making eye contact and threatening gestures is more likely to back one off.

Yeah, mountain lions are more inclined to back away from potential prey that stares at them. They like surprise attacks and there is no advantage of surprise if the potential prey is staring into the cat's eyes.

But the cyclist claims to have been less than 25 feet from the cat. If wind conditions are okay, that is well within range of Counter Assault bear spray, but I'm not familiar with the type the guy was using.

Also, the advice is to back away until the cat adopts an attack posture, which this cat seems to have done. At that point, backing away is no longer recommended, but rather standing your ground or even charging the lion. But with bearspray, that's the time to discharge a blast. And the guy did that.


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Here's a page on mountain lion body language that describes various stages of encounters and how to react. That page is based on research that also lays out the stages of encounters.

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Well done...!! I hope others will gain some useful knowledge  from this ecounter.
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A man cycling in the Game Creek drainage Wednesday fended off what appeared to be an aggressive mountain lion by releasing a miasma of red pepper bear spray.
 I didn't know the spray cans had a "miasma" setting.
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A man cycling in the Game Creek drainage Wednesday fended off what appeared to be an aggressive mountain lion by releasing a miasma of red pepper bear spray.
 I didn't know the spray cans had a "miasma" setting.

As long as the mimosa setting isn't chosen by mistake.  Glad to know the "kitty's" don't like bear spray either.  Luckier still the cat didn't pounce from behind as ambush predators normally do, especially as a fast moving mountain bike can more easily provoke the predator response.  Kind of why I prefer my backpack to cover my neck and lower head....

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mi·as·ma


/mīˈazmə,mē-/


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noun: miasma; plural noun: miasmas



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a highly unpleasant or unhealthy smell or vapor.


"a miasma of stale alcohol hung around him like marsh gas"


synonyms: stink, reek, stench, fetor, smell, fume, odor, whiff; More


gas, cloud, smog, vapor

"the miasma from the stagnant swamp made us choke and


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Yeah, I would want something a little more targeted than a miasma for that application.
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A man cycling in the Game Creek drainage Wednesday fended off what appeared to be an aggressive mountain lion by releasing a miasma of red pepper bear spray.
 I didn't know the spray cans had a "miasma" setting.

It's right next to "atomizer" on the dial, but maybe only on the deluxe version.
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i had to look up donnybrook. Never heard that word before. I kind of like the way it sounds. I must figure out a way to use it in my vocabulary  :p  :D

don·ny·brook/ˈdänēˌbro͝ok/
noun: donnybrook; plural noun: donnybrooks
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i had to look up donnybrook. Never heard that word before. I kind of like the way it sounds. I must figure out a way to use it in my vocabulary  :p  :D

don·ny·brook/ˈdänēˌbro͝ok/
noun: donnybrook; plural noun: donnybrooks
1. a scene of uproar and disorder; a heated argument.

Kinda sounds like a few threads at the Trailhead Register.

Example: "This thread has turned into a donnybrook."


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i had to look up donnybrook. Never heard that word before. I kind of like the way it sounds. I must figure out a way to use it in my vocabulary  :p  :D

don·ny·brook/ˈdänēˌbro͝ok/
noun: donnybrook; plural noun: donnybrooks
1. a scene of uproar and disorder; a heated argument.

Kinda sounds like a few threads at the Trailhead Register.

Example: "This thread has turned into a donnybrook."

Travis, you are brilliant!  :D

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"That math discussion almost turned into a donnybrook."  

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Huge props for working "miasma" into the article..
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"Donnybrook" was a fairly workaday word a few decades ago. Sportscasters used to use it regularly.

I doubt that "miasma" has ever been a workaday word. I would have had to look that one up had someone not done it for me in this thread.

I enjoy unusual words and have been told all my life that I speak with a large vocabulary, so if I don't know the meaning of a word, I can generally assume that it's pretty obscure.
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When I read this my first thought was, cat fight on bar night???

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...I had to look up miasma too.  Next time my son farts in the car I'll know what to say.  :D

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