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He was hypothermic, dehydrated and near starvation in the unforgiving cold of northwestern Quebec when police rescued him Wednesday.
Lavoie's survival might be called miraculous, as he had been in the wilderness for more than three months.

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Wow!  That is going to be some trip report!

Hope he posts it here.


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WOW. That's quite a story.
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Canadians are just tougher....
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"The bear did not injure Lavoie but left him without the tools or resources to survive. Police say they have yet to speak with Lavoie to get details....It was Lavoie's German shepherd who scared the bear away on the day of the attack, but the dog did not survive the ordeal, McInnis (police spokesman) said."

Since Lavoie hasn't spoken to the police yet, a lot of the narrative on what happened must be supposition.

I am wondering if the dog precipitated the attack.  I guess we will need to wait until he recovers to hear the whole story.
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I wonder if he ate the dog.
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I would have.

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I wonder if he ate the dog.

I would have.

True: three months is a long time otherwise.
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I'm curious how long he went without food, as the trip was to have lasted two months. So did the bear get the food at he beginning of his time out their or more toward the end of the two month trip?
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I would have.

Me, too.  I would consider it his last and greatest gift to me.
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I wonder if he ate the dog.

I would have.

Me, too.  I would consider it his last and greatest gift to me.

The dog I had previous to my last one probably would have been food in the first few days because he could be a royal PITA most times.
But I would have starved before doing that to the last pooch I had and would have been feeding her what I could scavenge before I ate.
The only thing I would have done would have been to put her down before we both starved but I would have never been able to eat her.


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I wish there were more details.  The pieces don't quite fit together for me.
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I would have eaten the bear, then the dog, then myself.

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Roasted well done. Bears carry trichinosis.


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My main question is why didn't he canoe out after he lost his food.  Did the bear attack him?  Was he hopelessly lost?  Can't wait for more details.
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Looks like he DID eat the dog, and this story calls him a hiker, not a paddler:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news....hs.html


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Really? What was the bear eating?
If there's enough food around for an animal the size of a bear, there's more than enough for a human and dog. If nothing else, track down and kill the bear.
Sounds like the guy had no wilderness survival knowledge or training.


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Too bad.  I hope the guy recovers.  Says the guy's canoe was destroyed by the bear as well as his food.  The nice thing about a canoe trip is you can carry a lot of provisions and eat well.  It'll be a good learning experience to learn the details of what all happened.

Man, I don't think I would have been able to put down my old Lab, Pooch.  Let's hope this guy recovers 100% physically.  Gotta be hard mentally, too.

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I wish there were more details.  The pieces don't quite fit together for me.

Ditto.

I agree also.

There are too many questions unanswered. For instance: Did he have bearspray? Did he attempt to use it? Going on a 2-month canoe trip without bearspray doesn't say much for his experience, as far as I can see.

Also, I doubt that the guy will fully recover anytime soon, if ever. If his body indeed had begun to cannibalize itself, he may have joint and foot problems for a long time to come. And at his age, the chances of his body rebuilding those areas it digested to keep him alive are not real good.


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I would have eaten the canoe.

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It says he was just 3 days into his trip. So he couldn't have been to far in, even with a canoe. I can do about 25 miles easily per day so figure he's around  75 to maybe 100 miles in. He loses his food and canoe. So why not start to hike out? Figuring you have to bush whack it would slow you down some but still I would think you could do around 10 miles a day. It's not like your pack is going to be heavy due to all the food since the bear ate it.
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Lots and lots of questions, few satisfactory answers.  

Let me know if anyone sees the book he writes, or has ghosted.

Should be a doozy.

It does have the smell of Into The Wild.


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It says he was just 3 days into his trip. So he couldn't have been to far in, even with a canoe. I can do about 25 miles easily per day so figure he's around  75 to maybe 100 miles in. He loses his food and canoe. So why not start to hike out? Figuring you have to bush whack it would slow you down some but still I would think you could do around 10 miles a day. It's not like your pack is going to be heavy due to all the food since the bear ate it.

10 miles a day off-trail with no food? Ain't gonna happen in my opinion.

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Dog, the other white meat...

He may have been on an island, isolated from the mainland.  I've never heard of a bear destroying a canoe.... and even a holed canoe can be cobbled up so it will float.

I guess we will just need to wait for the story to unfold.
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I was thinking the same thing. I want to hear more.
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