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What's his problem? It's not like these guys rampage through livestock herds or destroy the environment (like livestock herds) or or attack humans or even have anything to do with humans. Even with a reintroduction, most people will never see one.

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The imperial governor. How dare other states preserve endangered wildlife.

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That jerk obviously never watched Red Dawn.

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What's his problem? It's not like these guys rampage through livestock herds or destroy the environment (like livestock herds) or or attack humans or even have anything to do with humans. Even with a reintroduction, most people will never see one.

But it could hinder development in prime habitat. You know... those multi-million $ mansions in the mountains... i.e. -  the friends of the governor.

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What's his problem? It's not like these guys rampage through livestock herds or destroy the environment (like livestock herds) or or attack humans or even have anything to do with humans. Even with a reintroduction, most people will never see one.

But it could hinder development in prime habitat. You know... those multi-million $ mansions in the mountains... i.e. -  the friends of the governor.

And it might hinder snowmobiler joy rides into the mountains above those developments.

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Come on guys. Lighten up.  This is, after all, Wyoming.  Do you really expect environmental decisions to be based on scientific facts and rational?  My apologies to DC, Travis and my other friends in the "Cowboy state".

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Come on guys. Lighten up.  This is, after all, Wyoming.  Do you really expect environmental decisions to be based on scientific facts and rational?  My apologies to DC, Travis and my other friends in the "Cowboy state".

No apologies needed here. It can be rather frustrating to live in a state with such beautiful scenery and such backward leaders. ("Backward" was the nicest word I could think of without involving the human excretory anatomy.)

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Come on guys. Lighten up.  This is, after all, Wyoming.  Do you really expect environmental decisions to be based on scientific facts and rational?  My apologies to DC, Travis and my other friends in the "Cowboy state".

No apologies needed here. It can be rather frustrating to live in a state with such beautiful scenery and such backward leaders.

+1 and I have to keep reminding myself that these guys are the moderates.

eh, could be worse, we could be Utah or Idaho.
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Come on guys. Lighten up.  This is, after all, Wyoming.  Do you really expect environmental decisions to be based on scientific facts and rational?  My apologies to DC, Travis and my other friends in the "Cowboy state".

No apologies needed here. It can be rather frustrating to live in a state with such beautiful scenery and such backward leaders.

+1 and I have to keep reminding myself that these guys are the moderates.

eh, could be worse, we could be Utah or Idaho.

This is a good time to study the guy as I think he is a serious VPOUS or Secretary of Interior fodder after 2016. The man has serious traction with ALEC and the Koch folks. One of Governor Meads next targets is the elimination of the 41 Wilderness Study Areas, 3 % of the BLM surface acres in Wyoming.
And very sadly Wycanistlatrans is right....you should see the foil hat darlings that are challenging him in the primary.


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Too unattractive for VP, Blue Sage!  He does have a noggin similar to James Watt, President Reagan's Sec of the Interior.  Plus, his conservation ethics are quite close to Watt's, too.  If the Republicans win, the guy is a shoe-in.  If so, let's hope his time in office is as short as Watt's was...

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Come on guys. Lighten up.  This is, after all, Wyoming.  Do you really expect environmental decisions to be based on scientific facts and rational?  My apologies to DC, Travis and my other friends in the "Cowboy state".

No apologies needed here. It can be rather frustrating to live in a state with such beautiful scenery and such backward leaders.

+1 and I have to keep reminding myself that these guys are the moderates.

eh, could be worse, we could be Utah or Idaho.

This is a good time to study the guy as I think he is a serious VPOUS or Secretary of Interior fodder after 2016. The man has serious traction with ALEC and the Koch folks. One of Governor Meads next targets is the elimination of the 41 Wilderness Study Areas, 3 % of the BLM surface acres in Wyoming.
And very sadly Wycanistlatrans is right....you should see the foil hat darlings that are challenging him in the primary.

All very important points but snowmobiling and other recreation takes a deep backseat to resource extraction when it comes to his concerns. The governor is fighting to keep Wyoming's Coal and other resource extraction industries thriving. He goes out of his way to try and cast doubt on not just AGW but climate change as well. He has also contested recent educational guidelines that support climate change and AGW that have been embraced by most educators in the state.

I've been incredibly lucky; I have not seen wolverines in the Tetons, but have seen 3 in Greater Yellowstone. Whether that's because of greater numbers or concentration because of habitat loss I of course do not know. I'm curious about the paranoia of "experimental designation" because that designation was embraced for wolves by the resource extraction industry and the three States [WY, ID, MT.] Governors and Congressional Delegations because a "resident" population would trigger far more restrictive elements of the ESA. Do you guys know if wolverines wandering in from an introduced population in Colorado would somehow trigger greater restrictions in Wyoming?

Meade's Grandfather Cliff Hansen, one time Wyoming Governor and US Senator, was a vehement opponent of the creation of Grand Teton National Park but later upon reflection acknowledged a change of heart. His mother certainly had a greater appreciation for wilderness and environment. He was elected as a somewhat more center moderate but has proven to be an all to cozy campaigner of resource extraction industries. Wyoming relies so heavily on energy revenues few can envision a successful tourist industry like we have in Teton County meeting the perceived needs of the entire State. His promotion for National office will in my opinion ultimately backfire for the special interests he now serves with far too great an alacrity.

The last Governors race was between two people from Teton County. The Governor has certainly alienated some of the backers he enjoyed then. Sadly I think we could see the rise of wackos here like those in Utah vocally wanting dominion over Federal Lands. Hopefully the Tea Party will marginalize the ultra conservatives as they are in other States.


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